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Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

Published on 7th October 2009 5:07pm

Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

This news relates to Hartwell Village (General)

Now the South Northamptonshire council interim rural housing policy has been adopted, Hartwell is set to grow.

[Disclaimer - this is my personal view as an independent observer at the recent Parish Council meeting and is not in anyway approved by the Parish Council]

Earlier in the summer, I posted on the forum (http://www.hartwellvillage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1006) about how South Northamptonshire’s council interim rural housing consultation policy had identified Hartwell as a village suitable for some additional development. The draft policy also hinted at how one of the future options was to look more favourably at planning applications on land outside or next to villages.

This policy has now, with a few amendments, been adopted, and the Parish Council will be expected to redefine the official village bounds for 2012. The current bounds were defined sometime in the 1990s, and they mark the point at which it is next to impossible to get planning permission, certainly for new buildings.

The Parish Council have also recently received a letter regarding an initial proposal to build 36 houses on the farm land at the end of School Lane (across the lane from the Community Centre and next to the school). At this stage there are not many details – the letter merely starts the very lengthy process towards a formal planning application.

Proposed development location

The negatives to any development of this size, especially at this location outside the existing village bounds, are obvious – loss of agricultural land, increase in traffic past the school, insufficient capacity at local schools, and lack of infrastructure to name but a few. There are also positives – affordable housing for local people, more people to use local services like the post office, opportunity for planning gain (money given to the community from large developments) to improve local infrastructure, and recentralising the village.

As a community, we could fight off further expansion of the village, but would it do any good? At some point in the next ten years, our village, like it or not, will have to grow (unless the Government has a radical change in policy, or our lifestyles and ambitions radically change). 100% of the affordable housing rental units on Cross’s Close were assigned to people who meet the 10 year local connection criteria (that is people with a direct connection with Hartwell for at least 10 years) – so at the very least there is clearly a need for local housing for local people.

As one councillor suggested in the meeting, is now the time to sit down and work out, as a community, where we want, and don’t want, the village to grow, and what we need to ensure the village can support this growth. That then gives us something to negotiate with to ensure the future expansion of Hartwell is on our terms.

The Parish Council have given their response to this particular development - at this stage, until more information is available, a neutral one listing the pros and cons and the key issues, and the ball has started to roll in looking at how the future expansion of the village should be handled.

Can we avoid expansion? Where should the village expand? Where should the village not expand? Is expansion a good thing or a bad thing? What infrastructure improvements are required to support any growth?

I know my views, but this will affect us all, and the Parish Council will be doing a lot of consultation to make sure all our views are heard before this is over.

daylight_gambler

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Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By daylight_gambler >> 9 Oct 2009 09:32 am

siric wrote:You've miss quoted me daylight gambler. I said those who are 'profitting' not 'profiteering'.


:oops: oops - sorry!

siric wrote:I don't see the logic re: the school having to expand on to the play areas... The school has no particular right to expand onto the land around it, its private property isn't it?


If the village grew in the future (lets so over the next 10-15 years) - the school would ultimately need to get bigger. Currently the only land it could (in theory) expand onto is the field where this new development is planned. If that land became houses then the school would effectively be trapped, and the only option for expansion would be to build on it's open space. This is obviously a theoretical issue at the moment, but it is an example of the kinds of issues that need to be planned for.

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By siric >> 8 Oct 2009 10:21 pm

daylight_gambler wrote:I think "profiteering" is a little harsh. If I had land suitable for development, I would sell it!


You've miss quoted me daylight gambler. I said those who are 'profitting' not 'profiteering'. I was simply referring to those benefitting from the sale, not passing any judgement at all.

I whole heartedly agree that we have more people and therefore need more homes for them.

I don't see the logic re: the school having to expand on to the play areas... The school has no particular right to expand onto the land around it, its private property isn't it?

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By Parilia >> 8 Oct 2009 11:36 am

At the risk of diluting, or diverting, this thread, and as one of the new residents that was at the meeting, I think that whatever the size of village/community there will always be those who do not engage, at any level with those around them, which is sad but they have that right if they wish.

If the infrastructure is put in place it should slow further fragmentation of the community though. However, if new build is on the horizon, discussion should not just be about new infrastructure but also about what is already there. The fact that there are four 'community' premises in the village- the Community Centre, the Conservative Club, The Rose and Crown and the Church- and, putting the Church to one side for now, the other three are struggling to survive may mean that there needs to be a radical rethink of what's on offer.

Also, I understand youth provision is top of the agenda for the village, therefore any future development would not only have to incorporate something to benefit the young people of Hartwell but would also have to consider its sustainability when the money runs out.

With all the elements that have been raised above the key is not to resist developmen, as planning policies can be changed to wipe away any feasable objections, but to create a clear and sustainable plan that is hard to deny. By doing this the villagers take control of future plans rather than feeling trapped and abused by 'higher' authorities.

Having sat on a planning committee for a number of years I have had to watch as residents have been used as political pawns by Councillors who new they could get a refusal on an application but wanted to look like they were the good guy helping the residents. What they should have done was sat down wih local residents and work out how they could make the development work for the local community- it's going to happen, so make sure you get something out of it!

Paul

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By daylight_gambler >> 8 Oct 2009 08:23 am

Weebly wrote:On the other side most of the other village groups always complain of low attendance at events, and struggles to get committee members for events and groups, so perhaps we need 'new blood' to give us a better community.


I would agree - 'new blood' can be extremely beneficial. A good chunk of the more active users on this forum are new to the village, and it was great to see two new villagers at the Parish Council meeting on Tuesday night.

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By daylight_gambler >> 8 Oct 2009 08:00 am

Hi Siric - the planning gain from Cross's Close went towards road improvements (spent by the district (or maybe county) council on the changes to the junction by the church) and for youth provision (the Parish Council are currently working out what to spend it on - more details when I do a write up from the Parish Council meeting).

I think "profiteering" is a little harsh. If I had land suitable for development, I would sell it! (although I would like to think I am not a "squeeze a house onto my garden" type person - but as I can't anyway, who knows!)

The bottom line is that there is a massive need for housing - this isn't the fault of land owners, developers or councils / government - as a population we want to live where there is not enough housing (as we want to live in desirable areas), when we grow up we don't want to live with our parents, and we do insist in separating / divorcing. The net result is an increased demand in houses.

Weebly you have a good point about schools. With this development especially: if the primary school is trapped in, how can it expand without having to build on the play areas?

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By siric >> 7 Oct 2009 10:46 pm

as I understand it when developments like this are done, those profitting have to contribute to the cost of developing services to meet increased needs - when the land which was previously occupied by cross's yard was sold I'm sure the landowner had to make a hefty contribution to cost of increasing school places provision...

Re: Redefinition of the official village bounds set for 2012

By Weebly >> 7 Oct 2009 07:27 pm

I think this all needs considering by everyone. My main objection is the increased traffic and the school and senior schools in the area are already just about full to busting. Also where are these people going to work?

On the other side most of the other village groups always complain of low attendance at events, and struggles to get committee members for events and groups, so perhaps we need 'new blood' to give us a better community. Also if we get more funding for things like youth provision and roads then maybe we will all see an improvement.

What I wouldn't want is too much too quick or we really will not cope with the growth.

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